The price of gold fell today by $8.60 to $1607.50. Silver finished the comex session at $28.76 for a gain of
11 cents. It seems that the entire comex session is manipulated by the bankers as they hit round 3 am our time with the first London fix and generally around the second fix at 10 am our time. Once London is put to bet, the whack again knowing full well that the world is trading only in paper.
Late last night, we were alerted that the lease rates went negative which surely indicates that the raid was on again:
from a GATA supporter:
Its Sunday night and the lease rates have gone negative again.
The boyz are out there trying to keep a lid on things. Orwell would be proud of them.
After the December rout, I would suggest that the same gold is possibly being used to repeat the process of December 5th and 7th . shall be interesting to see how the open interest numbers present themselves .
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Then we got German treasury bill interest rate yields going negative:
The macro economic background for gold to move higher continues to strengthen…
"Germany sold six-month treasury bills at a negative yield for the first time amid demand for the debt securities of Europe’s largest economy as a haven from the sovereign debt crisis in neighboring nations."
So both gold lease yields and Germany’s Treasury yields go negative at the same time.
Let us head over to the comex and assess trading, inventory movements and delivery notices.
The total gold comex OI fell by 2516 contracts from 420,380 to 417,864. We are now coming to open interest levels which are extremely low as only the strong hands will play with the crooks. The front options expiry month of January saw its OI fall from 49 to 23 for a loss of 26 contracts. We had 24 delivery notices on Friday afternoon, so we lost only 2 contracts to cash settlements. The next delivery month is February and here the OI fell from 220,180 to 215,152 as some are rolling their future month contracts early. The estimated volume at the gold comex continues to fall as it came it at a reading of only 130,160 contracts despite some rollovers. The confirmed volume on Friday was slightly better at 175,302 and we also had some rollovers. Investors are fleeing the comex playing field as they pursue their physical metals elsewhere.
The total silver comex continues to differentiate itself from gold. Here the OI rose by 55 contracts from 106471 to 106,526. The silver OI is slowly rising whether the metal is whacked or not. It is quite conceivable that a major entity is ready to take on the banker shorts. The front options expiry month of January saw its OI mysteriously rise from 44 to 99 for a gain of 55 contracts. We had only 2 delivery notices on Friday so we gained a huge 53 contracts or 265,000 oz of additional silver standing. The next big delivery month is March and here the OI hardly budged rising by 42 contracts to 57,768. The volume at the silver comex was again anemic at 29,763 as the small specs and other investors abandoned the silver playing field. The confirmed volume on Friday was better at 42,152 but still lower than normal.
Inventory Movements and Delivery Notices for Gold: Jan 9 2012:
Gold | Ounces |
Withdrawals from Dealers Inventory in oz | nil |
Withdrawals from Customer Inventory in oz | 32,090 (Brinks,Scotia) |
Deposits to the Dealer Inventory in oz | nil |
Deposits to the Customer Inventory, in oz | nil |
No of oz served (contracts) today | 10 (1000) |
No of oz to be served (notices) | 13 (1300) |
Total monthly oz gold served (contracts) so far this month | 1000 (100,000) |
Total accumulative withdrawal of gold from the Dealers inventory this month | 4098 |
Total accumulative withdrawal of gold from the Customer inventory this month | 160,389 |
Today, we had no gold enter the dealer and no gold was withdrawn by the dealer.
The only transaction was a withdrawal by the customer as follows:
1. Out of Brinks: 99 oz
2. Out of JPMorgan: a very healthy, 31,991 oz
total customer withdrawal: 32,090 oz.
we had no customer deposit.
We also had a tiny 292 oz adjustment whereby gold leaves the customer and enters the dealer in an obvious lease arrangement.
The total registered gold at the comex registers 78.6 tonnes of gold.
The CME notified us that we had 10 notices filed for today or 1000 oz.
The total number of notices filed so far this month total 1000 for 100,000 oz of gold.
To obtain what is left to be served, we take the OI standing (23) and subtract out today's notices (10)
which leaves us with 13 notices or 1300 oz left to be served upon.
Thus the total number of gold oz standing in this non delivery month of January is as follows:
100,000 (oz served) + 1300 oz(to be served) = 101,300 oz or 3.15 tonnes (we lost 200 oz to cash settlements).
Thus, if we add the last 3 months of November (non delivery) December (delivery month) and January ( non delivery month) we have 73.83 tonnes of gold notices of deliveries compared to a inventory of 78.6 tonnes of gold or 93.93% of available registered or dealer gold.
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And now for silver
the chart: January 9 2012:
Month of January now commences:
Silver Ounces
Withdrawals from Dealers Inventory nil
Withdrawals fromCustomer Inventory 1,010,029 (JPM,Scotia)
Deposits to theDealer Inventory nil
Deposits to the Customer Inventory 585,535 (HSBC,Brinks,)
No of oz served (contracts) 82 (410,000)
No of oz to be served (notices) 9 (45,000)
Total monthly oz silver served (contracts) 506 (2,530,000)
Total accumulative withdrawal of silver from the Dealersinventory this month 268,115
Total accumulative withdrawal of silver from the Customer inventory this month 1,489,566
Again we witnessed considerable activity at the silver vaults.
However the dealer saw no silver deposits and no silver was withdrawn.
The customer had the following deposit:
1. 595,036 oz into the vault of Brinks.
The customer had the following withdrawal:
1. From Scotia 700,832 oz2. From JPMorgan; 309,197 oz
total withdrawal by the customer: 1,101,029 oz.we had one adjustment of 50,600 oz whereby the customer leased gold to a dealer.
The registered or dealer silver inventory rests tonight at 35.47 million oz.The total of all silver rests at 121.887 million oz.
end.
The CME notified us that we had 82 notices filed for 410,000 oz. The total number of notices filed so far this month register 506 for 2,530,000 oz.To obtain what is left to be served upon, I take the OI standing for January (93) and subtract out today's deliveries (82) which leaves us with 9 notices or 45,000 oz left to be served upon.
Thus the total number of silver oz standing in this non delivery month is as follows:
2,530,000 oz (served) + 45,000 oz (to be served) = 2,575,000 ozwe gained 225,000 additional silver oz standing.
Let us now proceed to our ETF's SLV and GLD and then our physical gold and silver funds:Sprott and Central Fund of Canada.
The two ETF's that I follow are the GLD and SLV. You must be very careful in trading these vehicles as these funds do not have any beneficial gold or silver behind them. They probably have only paper claims and when the dust settles, on a collapse, there will be countless class action lawsuits trying to recover your lost investment.There is now evidence that the GLD and SLV are paper settling on the comex.
Thus a default at either of the LBMA, or Comex will trigger a catastrophic event.
Jan 9:2012:
Total Gold in Trust
Tonnes:1,254.57
Ounces:40,335,690.64
Value US$:65,110,821,936.85
Jan 7.2011:
TOTAL GOLD IN TRUST
Tonnes:1,254.57
Ounces:40,335,690.64
Value US$:65,173,461,623.03
We lost zero oz of gold again from the GLD. It is very strange that for the past several days we saw gold whacked in price and yet no gold left. A week ago Friday we saw gold rise and yet inventory remained constant. Tuesday a big gain and again no gold enters its vault. Wednesday, another big rise in gold and still no gold enters. Thursday, another rise and still no gold enters the GLD vaults.Friday last, we saw gold hit for $3.30 and still no gold enters or leaves the GLD. Today, another hit for 8 dollars and still no gold enters or leaves.
And now for silver Jan 9 2012:
Ounces of Silver in Trust 305,970,641.100
Tonnes of Silver in Trust 
9,516.75
Jan 7.2011:
Ounces of Silver in Trust 305,970,641.100
Tonnes of Silver in Trust 
9,516.75
we neither gained nor lost any silver today in the SLV.
end
And now for our premiums to NAV for the funds I follow:
1. Central Fund of Canada: traded to a positive 1.4 percent to NAV in usa funds and a positive 1.1% to NAV for Cdn funds. ( Jan 9 2012.).2. Sprott silver fund (PSLV): Premium to NAV rose big time to 34.22% to NAV Jan 7. 2012: oh my goodness..... WOW!!!!!
3. Sprott gold fund (PHYS): premium to NAV fell to a 5.32% positive to NAV Jan 9. 2012).
.
just take a look at the premium in silver...34.22%.
and take a closer look at the premium in gold...5.32%
physical metal is starting to distance itself from paper.The bankers are loathe to attack the Sprott funds. They are still shorting Central fund of Canada. Eric is still on the prowl looking for his silver.
I would also like to point out that Venezuela still has not received its gold from the Bank of EnglandI believe that the amount of gold coming from over there is around 99 tonnes.Its first shipment came from other physical vaults and I do not believe that much came from the B. of E.which is the key centre to watch.
end.
Before we head over to see the major stories of today in the paper chase, the Mint announced its sales for December. Bix Weir includes the Jan 3.2012 sales into December as the Mint is trying to hide real demand for December.It looks like the demand for silver eagles etc to the mint came it at over 5 million oz.The USA produces around 40 million oz per year or 3.3 million oz per month. Canada also had more mint sales than production and Canada is a very good producer of gold and silver. Thus the comex must import at least 1.7 million oz of silver form Europe to supply investors taking delivery from options (Jan and Feb) and delivery notices in March.
(courtesy Bix Weir and the Mint sales)The Holiday Silver Eagle Drive
the chart: January 9 2012:
Month of January now commences:
| Silver | Ounces |
| Withdrawals from Dealers Inventory | nil |
| Withdrawals fromCustomer Inventory | 1,010,029 (JPM,Scotia) |
| Deposits to theDealer Inventory | nil |
| Deposits to the Customer Inventory | 585,535 (HSBC,Brinks,) |
| No of oz served (contracts) | 82 (410,000) |
| No of oz to be served (notices) | 9 (45,000) |
| Total monthly oz silver served (contracts) | 506 (2,530,000) |
| Total accumulative withdrawal of silver from the Dealersinventory this month | 268,115 |
| Total accumulative withdrawal of silver from the Customer inventory this month | 1,489,566 |
Again we witnessed considerable activity at the silver vaults.
However the dealer saw no silver deposits and no silver was withdrawn.
The customer had the following deposit:
1. 595,036 oz into the vault of Brinks.
The customer had the following withdrawal:
1. From Scotia 700,832 oz
2. From JPMorgan; 309,197 oz
total withdrawal by the customer: 1,101,029 oz.
we had one adjustment of 50,600 oz whereby the customer leased gold to a dealer.
The registered or dealer silver inventory rests tonight at 35.47 million oz.
The total of all silver rests at 121.887 million oz.
end.
The CME notified us that we had 82 notices filed for 410,000 oz.
The total number of notices filed so far this month register 506 for 2,530,000 oz.
To obtain what is left to be served upon, I take the OI standing for January (93) and subtract out today's deliveries (82) which leaves us with 9 notices or 45,000 oz left to be served upon.
Thus the total number of silver oz standing in this non delivery month is as follows:
2,530,000 oz (served) + 45,000 oz (to be served) = 2,575,000 oz
we gained 225,000 additional silver oz standing.
Let us now proceed to our ETF's SLV and GLD and then our physical gold and silver funds:
Sprott and Central Fund of Canada.
The two ETF's that I follow are the GLD and SLV. You must be very careful in trading these vehicles as these funds do not have any beneficial gold or silver behind them. They probably have only paper claims and when the dust settles, on a collapse, there will be countless class action lawsuits trying to recover your lost investment.There is now evidence that the GLD and SLV are paper settling on the comex.
Thus a default at either of the LBMA, or Comex will trigger a catastrophic event.
Jan 9:2012:
Total Gold in Trust
Tonnes:1,254.57
Ounces:40,335,690.64
Value US$:65,110,821,936.85
Jan 7.2011:
TOTAL GOLD IN TRUST
Tonnes:1,254.57
Ounces:40,335,690.64
Value US$:65,173,461,623.03
We lost zero oz of gold again from the GLD. It is very strange that for the past several days we saw gold whacked in price and yet no gold left. A week ago Friday we saw gold rise and yet inventory remained constant. Tuesday a big gain and again no gold enters its vault. Wednesday, another big rise in gold and still no gold enters. Thursday, another rise and still no gold enters the GLD vaults.Friday last, we saw gold hit for $3.30 and still no gold enters or leaves the GLD. Today, another hit for 8 dollars and still no gold enters or leaves.
Sprott and Central Fund of Canada.
The two ETF's that I follow are the GLD and SLV. You must be very careful in trading these vehicles as these funds do not have any beneficial gold or silver behind them. They probably have only paper claims and when the dust settles, on a collapse, there will be countless class action lawsuits trying to recover your lost investment.There is now evidence that the GLD and SLV are paper settling on the comex.
Thus a default at either of the LBMA, or Comex will trigger a catastrophic event.
Jan 9:2012:
Total Gold in Trust
Tonnes:1,254.57
Ounces:40,335,690.64
Value US$:65,110,821,936.85
Jan 7.2011:
TOTAL GOLD IN TRUST
Tonnes:1,254.57
Ounces:40,335,690.64
Value US$:65,173,461,623.03
We lost zero oz of gold again from the GLD. It is very strange that for the past several days we saw gold whacked in price and yet no gold left. A week ago Friday we saw gold rise and yet inventory remained constant. Tuesday a big gain and again no gold enters its vault. Wednesday, another big rise in gold and still no gold enters. Thursday, another rise and still no gold enters the GLD vaults.Friday last, we saw gold hit for $3.30 and still no gold enters or leaves the GLD. Today, another hit for 8 dollars and still no gold enters or leaves.
Sprott and Central Fund of Canada.
The two ETF's that I follow are the GLD and SLV. You must be very careful in trading these vehicles as these funds do not have any beneficial gold or silver behind them. They probably have only paper claims and when the dust settles, on a collapse, there will be countless class action lawsuits trying to recover your lost investment.
There is now evidence that the GLD and SLV are paper settling on the comex.
Thus a default at either of the LBMA, or Comex will trigger a catastrophic event.
Jan 9:2012:
Total Gold in Trust
Tonnes:1,254.57
Ounces:40,335,690.64
Value US$:65,110,821,936.85
Jan 7.2011:
TOTAL GOLD IN TRUST
Tonnes:1,254.57
Ounces:40,335,690.64
Value US$:65,173,461,623.03
We lost zero oz of gold again from the GLD. It is very strange that for the past several days we saw gold whacked in price and yet no gold left. A week ago Friday we saw gold rise and yet inventory remained constant. Tuesday a big gain and again no gold enters its vault. Wednesday, another big rise in gold and still no gold enters. Thursday, another rise and still no gold enters the GLD vaults.
Friday last, we saw gold hit for $3.30 and still no gold enters or leaves the GLD. Today, another hit for 8 dollars and still no gold enters or leaves.
And now for silver Jan 9 2012:
Ounces of Silver in Trust 305,970,641.100
Tonnes of Silver in Trust 
9,516.75
Jan 7.2011:
Ounces of Silver in Trust 305,970,641.100
Tonnes of Silver in Trust 
9,516.75
we neither gained nor lost any silver today in the SLV.
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And now for silver Jan 9 2012:
Ounces of Silver in Trust 305,970,641.100
Tonnes of Silver in Trust 
9,516.75
Jan 7.2011:
Ounces of Silver in Trust 305,970,641.100
Tonnes of Silver in Trust 
9,516.75
we neither gained nor lost any silver today in the SLV.
end
And now for silver Jan 9 2012:
| Ounces of Silver in Trust | 305,970,641.100 |
| Tonnes of Silver in Trust | 9,516.75 |
Jan 7.2011:
| Ounces of Silver in Trust | 305,970,641.100 |
| Tonnes of Silver in Trust | 9,516.75 |
we neither gained nor lost any silver today in the SLV.
end
And now for our premiums to NAV for the funds I follow:
1. Central Fund of Canada: traded to a positive 1.4 percent to NAV in usa funds and a positive 1.1% to NAV for Cdn funds. ( Jan 9 2012.).2. Sprott silver fund (PSLV): Premium to NAV rose big time to 34.22% to NAV Jan 7. 2012: oh my goodness..... WOW!!!!!
3. Sprott gold fund (PHYS): premium to NAV fell to a 5.32% positive to NAV Jan 9. 2012).
.
just take a look at the premium in silver...34.22%.
and take a closer look at the premium in gold...5.32%
physical metal is starting to distance itself from paper.The bankers are loathe to attack the Sprott funds. They are still shorting Central fund of Canada. Eric is still on the prowl looking for his silver.
I would also like to point out that Venezuela still has not received its gold from the Bank of EnglandI believe that the amount of gold coming from over there is around 99 tonnes.Its first shipment came from other physical vaults and I do not believe that much came from the B. of E.which is the key centre to watch.
end.
Before we head over to see the major stories of today in the paper chase, the Mint announced its sales for December. Bix Weir includes the Jan 3.2012 sales into December as the Mint is trying to hide real demand for December.It looks like the demand for silver eagles etc to the mint came it at over 5 million oz.The USA produces around 40 million oz per year or 3.3 million oz per month. Canada also had more mint sales than production and Canada is a very good producer of gold and silver. Thus the comex must import at least 1.7 million oz of silver form Europe to supply investors taking delivery from options (Jan and Feb) and delivery notices in March.
(courtesy Bix Weir and the Mint sales)The Holiday Silver Eagle Drive
And now for our premiums to NAV for the funds I follow:
1. Central Fund of Canada: traded to a positive 1.4 percent to NAV in usa funds and a positive 1.1% to NAV for Cdn funds. ( Jan 9 2012.).2. Sprott silver fund (PSLV): Premium to NAV rose big time to 34.22% to NAV Jan 7. 2012: oh my goodness..... WOW!!!!!
3. Sprott gold fund (PHYS): premium to NAV fell to a 5.32% positive to NAV Jan 9. 2012).
.
just take a look at the premium in silver...34.22%.
and take a closer look at the premium in gold...5.32%
physical metal is starting to distance itself from paper.The bankers are loathe to attack the Sprott funds. They are still shorting Central fund of Canada. Eric is still on the prowl looking for his silver.
I would also like to point out that Venezuela still has not received its gold from the Bank of EnglandI believe that the amount of gold coming from over there is around 99 tonnes.Its first shipment came from other physical vaults and I do not believe that much came from the B. of E.which is the key centre to watch.
end.
Before we head over to see the major stories of today in the paper chase, the Mint announced its sales for December. Bix Weir includes the Jan 3.2012 sales into December as the Mint is trying to hide real demand for December.It looks like the demand for silver eagles etc to the mint came it at over 5 million oz.The USA produces around 40 million oz per year or 3.3 million oz per month. Canada also had more mint sales than production and Canada is a very good producer of gold and silver. Thus the comex must import at least 1.7 million oz of silver form Europe to supply investors taking delivery from options (Jan and Feb) and delivery notices in March.
(courtesy Bix Weir and the Mint sales)The Holiday Silver Eagle Drive
And now for our premiums to NAV for the funds I follow:
1. Central Fund of Canada: traded to a positive 1.4 percent to NAV in usa funds and a positive 1.1% to NAV for Cdn funds. ( Jan 9 2012.).
2. Sprott silver fund (PSLV): Premium to NAV rose big time to 34.22% to NAV Jan 7. 2012: oh my goodness..... WOW!!!!!
3. Sprott gold fund (PHYS): premium to NAV fell to a 5.32% positive to NAV Jan 9. 2012).
3. Sprott gold fund (PHYS): premium to NAV fell to a 5.32% positive to NAV Jan 9. 2012).
.
just take a look at the premium in silver...34.22%.
and take a closer look at the premium in gold...5.32%
physical metal is starting to distance itself from paper.The bankers are loathe to attack the Sprott funds.
They are still shorting Central fund of Canada. Eric is still on the prowl looking for his silver.
I would also like to point out that Venezuela still has not received its gold from the Bank of England
I believe that the amount of gold coming from over there is around 99 tonnes.
Its first shipment came from other physical vaults and I do not believe that much came from the B. of E.
which is the key centre to watch.
Before we head over to see the major stories of today in the paper chase,
the Mint announced its sales for December. Bix Weir includes the Jan 3.2012 sales into December as the Mint is trying to hide real demand for December.
It looks like the demand for silver eagles etc to the mint came it at over 5 million oz.
The USA produces around 40 million oz per year or 3.3 million oz per month. Canada also had more mint sales than production and Canada is a very good producer of gold and silver. Thus the comex must import at least 1.7 million oz of silver form Europe to supply investors taking delivery from options (Jan and Feb) and delivery notices in March.
(courtesy Bix Weir and the Mint sales)
The Holiday Silver Eagle Drive
Thanks to all of you who were out buying Silver Eagles this holiday season the "Unofficial Sales Total" hit the staggering record of 5,206,000 ounces sold in December!
I use the term "Unofficial Sales Total" because the US Mint was sandbagging the official numbers to disguise the real sales figure. Yes, the US Mint is in on the con game. The reason I know they rigged the numbers is that unless the Mint was open on January 2nd (a Federal holiday) the 3,197,000 ounces posted midday on January 3rd were actually December sales!
Here's the numbers posted by the US Mint:
December 2011 = 2,009,000
January 3, 2012 = 3,197,000
Unofficial December Total = 5,206,000 BRAVO Road Warriors!
Bix Weir
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As everyone is aware Angela Merkel and Nicholas Sarkozy of France had another pow-wow in Berlin early this morning. Here is a brief description of what happened during the night with some tiny short covering.
However we had record levels of euros reach the ECB to the tune of 190 billion euros or almost all of the 210 net LTRO bailout money. They carry trade where the banks are suppose to buy their host's sovereign debt seems dead in the water.
Here is zero hedge on trading last night:
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EUR Rebounds From Multi Year Lows On Merkozy Meeting, Short Covering; ECB Deposits Soar To Record
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/09/2012 07:18 -0500
Europe has opened a new week with a modestly schizophrenic session: after hitting a multi year low against the USD and an 11 year low against the Yen, the Euro has seen a constant rise and traded nearly 100 pips higher last at 1.2770 on renewed hopes that today's Merkozy meeting would finally yield success. While that is clearly an utter delusion, with the absolute record of shorts in the EUR as we pointed out last Friday, the smallest move higher can generate an avalanche of covering, and as we said previously a "potential" margin hike by the CME at any point in Euro contracts would leads to a QE-like surge higher in the EUR. If only briefly. Elsewhere, bond yields were mostly unchanged with the 10-yr Italian yield -3bps to 7.1% after rising as much as 4bps to 7.17% earlier; the 10-yr Spanish yield -5bps to 5.66%; was +1bp to 5.72% earlier; the 10-yr bund yield +2bps to 1.88%, first rise in 3 days. Most importantly, but no longer surprisingly, the ECB Deposit Facility usage soared to a new all time high of €464 billion, an increase of €199 billion since the LTRO hit the bank balance sheets on December 21, which accounts for virtually all the non-rolled cash. Simply said, Europe remains in suspended animation with hopes that a deus ex (now that the aliens have been downgraded from "possible" to "interference") will materalize preventing an allout spread collapse.
Bloomberg completes the overnight picture:
- Merkel, Sarkozy meeting to agree on fiscal consolidation measures designed to shore up concerns about EU sovereign debt most EU sovereign to bund yield spreads modestly tight, 1-yr euro basis swap +2.5bps to -86.00
- Most U.S. futures, Treasury yields higher
- US$ down vs most currencies {FIFW WCRS
}; A$ recovering from overnight losses as Pimco said RBA would have to cut target rate on China slowdown; most commodities modestly higher - Key exception to generally positive sentiment: EU equities modestly lower on weaker than expected German industrial production -0.6%M/m vs est. -0.5%, adding to downside surprises for retail sales, factory orders last week
Last night Unicredit had its shares halted 8 times as it fell to 2.28 euros down over 12.8% on the day.
First story: Associated Press
Unicredit shares suspended as it raises capital
(AP) MILAN — Shares in UniCredit were briefly suspended from trading Monday on the Milan stock exchange due to excessive volatility, as Italy's biggest bank launched a capital increase.
The bank has lost nearly half of its market value in recent days after announcing it was seeking to raise ��.5 billion ($9.7 billion) at a massive discount to the prevailing share price.
The bank last week set the price for the rights at ��.943, which represented a 69 percent discount over the previous day's close. Shareholders can buy the new shares through Jan. 27.
Shares resumed trading at midday with their price down 8.3 percent at ��.40.
UniCredit SpA is trying to raise capital to meet new European requirements for banks to boost their financial cushions against possible losses.
Italy's market watchdog authority, Consob, said it had started checking into the movement of UniCredit shares on Wednesday and Thursday, when shares were suspended due to volatility, with an eye to possible violations of Italy's new rules on short-selling.
UniCredit shares dropped some 10 percent Thursday before trading was halted with the bank's share price standing at ��.86 ($6.29). On Wednesday, its share price slid 15 percent.
UniCredit CEO Federico Ghizzoni has said that such a "technical reaction" was expected, and remained optimistic that the capital increase would be successful.
Banks are an integral part of Europe's debt crisis because they hold government bonds. A default or steep fall in the value of government bonds could inflict heavy losses on banks and choke off credit to the European economy. That's why the regulatory authorities want Europe's banks to raise their buffers by $115 billion (149 billion) over the next few months.
The bank has lost nearly half of its market value in recent days after announcing it was seeking to raise ��.5 billion ($9.7 billion) at a massive discount to the prevailing share price.
The bank last week set the price for the rights at ��.943, which represented a 69 percent discount over the previous day's close. Shareholders can buy the new shares through Jan. 27.
Shares resumed trading at midday with their price down 8.3 percent at ��.40.
UniCredit SpA is trying to raise capital to meet new European requirements for banks to boost their financial cushions against possible losses.
Italy's market watchdog authority, Consob, said it had started checking into the movement of UniCredit shares on Wednesday and Thursday, when shares were suspended due to volatility, with an eye to possible violations of Italy's new rules on short-selling.
UniCredit shares dropped some 10 percent Thursday before trading was halted with the bank's share price standing at ��.86 ($6.29). On Wednesday, its share price slid 15 percent.
UniCredit CEO Federico Ghizzoni has said that such a "technical reaction" was expected, and remained optimistic that the capital increase would be successful.
Banks are an integral part of Europe's debt crisis because they hold government bonds. A default or steep fall in the value of government bonds could inflict heavy losses on banks and choke off credit to the European economy. That's why the regulatory authorities want Europe's banks to raise their buffers by $115 billion (149 billion) over the next few months.
end:
Second story: Agence France-Presse)
Italy's UniCredit shares plunge as capital increase starts
Italy's top bank UniCredit saw its shares plunge on Monday on the first day of its closely-watched 7.5-billion-euro ($9.6-billion) share issue aimed at meeting new European capital requirements.
The share price closed 12.81 percent lower in Milan at 2.286 euros.
The capital increase announcement last week dragged the stock down 14 percent on Wednesday, 17 percent on Thursday and 11 percent on Friday.
In order to attract investors, the bank was forced to price new shares at the heavily discounted level of 1.943 euros -- a move that spooked investors already nervous about the state of eurozone banks in the current environment.
Asked about Italian banks, Prime Minister Mario Monti on Sunday said lenders were "not at risk". He said UniCredit's capital increase was necessary even though it would mean "inconveniences" such as a fall in its share price.
UniCredit chief executive Federico Ghizzoni last week said the share issue was "an important test for the whole of the European banking market."
Several major UniCredit shareholders, including German insurance giant Allianz and Italian banking foundations, have already undertaken to buy around 24 percent of the shares in the capital increase, which ends on January 27.
A source close to the negotiations told AFP last month that the Libyan central bank, which already holds a 4.99-percent stake in UniCredit, would also take part using funds from Moamer Kadhafi's regime that are to be unblocked.
European authorities are forcing the region's banks to quickly raise their core capital to 9.0 percent by June in order for them to be able to better withstand shocks from the eurozone debt crisis.
Following the the 2008-09 global financial crisis, regulators agreed to strengthen banks' core capital reserves from 2.0 percent to 7.0 percent under Basel III rules, but the banks were given nearly a decade to comply.
The largest banks, whose failure could undermine the whole financial system, were told to increase their reserves to the equivalent of 9.0 percent of their asset base, the quicker the better.
UniCredit said on November 14 that it planned to raise its core capital from 8.74 percent to 9.0 percent in 2012 and then to 10 percent by 2015.
end.
Here is a visual for the 8 halts in UNIcredit today:
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Italian Banks Plunge On Capital Raise Concerns
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/09/2012 11:33 -0500
While headlines are reeling with the almost-50% drop (and 8 halts today alone!) in UniCredit's stock price since the start of the year (as it tried and 'succeeded' to raise capital from clearly risk-averse investors), the rest of the Italian banking sector is now 'crashing'. With bank stocks down 12-20% year to dateacross the board, the clear fear is that the cost of raising real equity capital (not finding some short-term funding crisis solution) remains extremely high and as we tweeted last week,if the EUR7.5bn capital raise caused a 40% sell-off in UniCredit, how is the market going to cope with the EUR115bn more that is needed? Good Luck.
Then we had Italian 10 yr bond finish trading at a yield of 7.16%
(courtesy zero hedge)
Italian Bonds Surge To Early November Wides
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/09/2012 12:00 -0500
10Y Italian bonds (BTPs) ended the day at their second-widest closing spread to Bunds ever (at 533bps). Only November 9th saw a wider closing print and of course we saw margin hikes at LCH CC&G. 10Y yields are at 7.16%, their highest since just after Thanksgiving but we do note that 2Y yields have stabilized at around 5.00% yields (having peaked near 8% during thin Thanksgiving trading). It seems apparent that perhaps traders front-running LTRO's impact have compressed the 2s10s term structure but much clearer to us is Mr. Market's obvious desire for more money-printing now as BTPs are pushed to unsustainable levels once again - and the banking-to-sovereign vicious circle transmission of insolvency cranks up.
BTPs underperformed today as most European sovereigns were leaking wider into the close...
leaving BTPs almost as bad as they have ever been in 10Y spreads (upper pane) and yields (middle pane).
All of this in the context of a consistently increasing SMP by the ECB in the last three weeks...
Charts: Bloomberg
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The closing 10 yr Italian bond. It seems the only nation to record a rise in yield is the Italians:
Snapshot
| SUMMARY | ONE-YEAR CHART INTERACTIVE CHART | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Value | 7.16 | ||
| Change | 0.030 (0.419%) | ||
| Open | 7.17 | ||
| High | 7.18 | ||
| Low | 7.06 | ||
end.
Spanish 10 yr bond: (lowers by 15 basis points)
Snapshot
| SUMMARY | ONE-YEAR CHART INTERACTIVE CHART | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Value | 5.56 | ||
| Change | -0.146 (-2.559%) | ||
| Open | 5.71 | ||
| High | 5.72 | ||
| Low | 5.54 | ||
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Austrian 10 year bond yield: (lowers by 15 basis points)
Snapshot
| SUMMARY | ONE-YEAR CHART INTERACTIVE CHART | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Value | 3.29 | ||
| Change | -0.151 (-4.399%) | ||
| Open | 3.45 | ||
| High | 3.46 | ||
| Low | 3.27 | ||
It seems that the Greeks are taking the bailout money and buying military equipment.
(courtesy zero hedge)
Greece Spends Bailout Cash On European Military Purchases
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/09/2012 12:33 -0500
- European Union
- George Papandreou
- Germany
- Greece
- International Monetary Fund
- Newspaper
- Nicolas Sarkozy
- Turkey
As Greek standards of living nose-dive, loans to households and businesses shrink still further, and Troika-imposed PSI discussions continue, there is one segment of the country's infrastructure that is holding up well. In a story on Zeit Online, the details of the multi-billion Euro new arms contracts are exposed as the European reach-around would be complete with IMF (US) and Europe-provided Greek bailout cash doing a full-circle into American Apache helicopters, French frigates, and German U-Boats. As the unnamed source in the article notes: "If Greece gets paid in March the next tranche of funding (€ 80 billion is expected), there is a real opportunity to conclude new arms contracts." With the country's doctors only treating emergencies, bus drivers on strike, and a dire lack of school textbooks and the country teetering on the brink of Drachmatization, perhaps our previous concerns over military coups was not so far-fetched as after the Portuguese (another obviously stressed nation), the Greeks are the largest buyers of German war weapons. It seems debt crisis talks perhaps had more quid pro quo than many expected as Euro Fighter commitments were also discussed and Greek foreign minister Droutsas points out:"Whether we like it or not, Greece is obliged to have a strong military".
From Zeit Online: Fine Weapons For Athens (Via Google Translate)
Frigates, tanks and submarines: A Greek military passes any savings package. And Germany benefited.
The Gift of the Greek Ministry of Defense has the man in the head: up to 60 fighter aircraft fighter for maybe € 3.9 billion euros. French frigates for about four billion, patrol boats worth 400 million euros, as much is the necessary modernization of the existing Greek fleet. Then it still lacks of ammunition for the Leopard tank , also would have two American Apache helicopters will be replaced. Oh, and one would like to buy German U-boats, total price: two billion euros.
What the man who goes in and out of Greece's Defence Ministry, in an Athens cafe is because of the sounds absurd. A State which is on the verge of bankruptcy and is supported by billions of the European Union wants to buy tons of weapons?The man in the café is often seen in photos next to the generals of the Army or Defense, he phoned often with these people, so he knows his way around. He knows how sensitive the issue, and would therefore - like most other party - are not named in the newspaper. He even holds for arms purchases currently not communicable. But could soon change that, he says: "If Greece get paid in March the next tranche of funding of € 80 billion is expected, there is a real opportunity to conclude new arms contracts."
If only one billion staying left, so the man could be, for example, the first Euro Fighter frigates or a binding order.
Really incredible: This spring, decides whether Greece survives in the euro area or the drachma back . On the morning of the internals in the café are freely divulged, physicians treat in Athens hospitals only in emergencies, bus drivers on strike, are still missing textbooks in schools and thousands demonstrate against state officials announced their dismissal. Greece's government announced a new savings program that barely spared a Greek.
Unless he works for the military or the armaments industry . On these two areas is in fact still almost passed without any austerity.
...
Under Greece's EU partners, there are few who speak out publicly in favor, stop the project immediately and Greek armor for a long time. One is Daniel Cohn-Bendit, leader of the Greens in the European Parliament: "From the outside, access to EU countries in practically all the rights of Greece.Nurses will cut the wages and everything should be privatized. Only in the defense budget, it means a sudden, it was a sovereign right of the state. It's surreal. "
Cohn-Bendit believes that behind the hesitation of Europe to entrenched economic interests. Main beneficiary of the Greek armament policy in Europe is just saving champions Germany. According to thejust-released report, Arms Export in 2010 after the Portuguese, the Greeks - a state on the verge of bankruptcy - the largest buyers of German war weapons. Spanish and Greek newspapers spread the rumor at all, Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy would have remembered former Prime Minister of Greece George Papandreou nor the end of October at the edge of a summit meeting to finding solutions to existing or new arms orders complete. InPapandreou's environment is not confirmed, the federal government decided denied "messages, Chancellor Merkel and President Sarkozy had recently urged Greece to new arms deals, baseless," said a spokesman via e-mail.
...
Clearly this is apparently also become a state visit in Greece: German Government members expressed their export needs, and the Greeks reiterated their demand for imports. It has every known, "that Greece had invested too much in its military," so Linnenkamp. Yet the Greeks piled on over the years, enormous obligations.
...
But in the spring of 2010 reminded Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle (FDP), the Greek government to the order of € Fighter, just weeks before the Greek bankruptcy. "Westerwelle called for a commitment to the Euro Fighter," says someone who has experienced the talks closely. The Foreign Minister also assured again in the Greek daily newspaper Kathimerini: "We do not urge the Greek government to buy. If (they) but, at any time whatsoever, a decision to purchase fighter aircraft meets the Euro Fighter countries want to be represented here by Germany, will be considered in the decision. . This is within the European Union, but completely normal, "A few weeks later Westerwelle called in the stock market newspaper more discipline from the South:" We expect before, there are discussions about aid that Greece executes fully their own homework to consolidate policy. "
How does that work? Not at all, is the defense expert Linnenkamp: "It was totally irresponsible to speak in the midst of severe economic crisis, the issue of Greece's Euro Fighter at all."
...
Dimitris Droutsas is one of the few Greeks who speak openly about these figures. By June 2011, he was of Greek foreign minister. "We have not spent so much money on defense, because we made it fun," he says. The Greek foreign borders must be secured against the waves of migration from North Africa and Asia, almost daily there are conflicts with Turkey. "As Foreign Minister I was always in the afternoon a message from the Defense Department with the list of Turkish violations of our airspace." Greece also been watching with concern the increasing activity of the Turkish navy in the Aegean Sea and have seen a good 35 years on the "Turkish invasion" Cyprus . Since then, the Greeks lived in a state of fear. That with Turkey give an arms race, although both countries are in NATO, Droutsas deems legitimate: "Whether we like it or not, Greece is obliged to have a strong military" point.
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Resistance in its own population as Droutsas Greeks need not fear. The Greek military security sector promises to the people - and jobs. In a country without its own significant industry that is worth much. German defense companies have recognized this early and with Greek companies closely intertwined. Someone who mitverhandelte long, says: "In Greece, the arms deal as a give and take anywhere. What do I get in return when I buy a tank with you? Always it was also about compensation. Any politician who signed a treaty with the Germans hoped that a corresponding portion flows back. "
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Then this from Greece:
(courtesy Der Spiegel)
Doubts grow over Greek restructuring: Der Spiegel said that the outlook for Greece is looking increasingly bleak, noting that government reforms are behind target, while PSI negotiations have stalled. It added that a disorderly default could be just weeks away. As reported by other media outlets, the article pointed out that the IMF wants to revise the benchmark figures for the restructuring program approved in October. It also cited an internal document that showed that the troika sees three possibilities: either Greece must implement tougher austerity measures; or private creditors must accept a larger haircut; or the country's creditors must provide Greece with additional funds.
Bondholders poised to accept higher losses: The FT said that holders of Greek bonds are set to accept higher losses. Sources involved with the debt swap discussions told the paper that bondholders were likely to suffer a haircut of 50-60%, more than the 50% originally agreed in October as part of the second Greek bailout package (recall that the haircut under the first bailout package was 21%). The article pointed out that while the IMF and Greece have pushed for the tougher terms, bondholders and factions within the ECB have proposed watering down the PSI or even scrapping it completely. The FT, which highlighted investor concerns that holders of Italian and Portuguese debt could potentially also face restructurings, went on to discuss the uncertainty surrounding the fate of the ECB's estimated €45B of Greek sovereign holdings.
Today the Chairman of the Switzerland's national bank quit amid a scandal over his wife's purchases of USA dollars. Now the Swiss peg with the dollar is in jeopardy:
(courtesy zero hedge)
SocGen On Hildebrand Departure Next Steps: "Will SNB Have To Make A Move?"
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/09/2012 10:12 -0500
(Belgium 10 yr bond yield)
As many have been suspecting all along, the political game involving the ouster of now former SNB president Philipp Hildebrand has been nothing more than a game of "pin the tail on the scapegoat" for bad monetary policy by the SNB, read the EURCHF 1.20 peg. In other words, it is quite likely that alongside the burgeoning SNB balance sheet, the bank had also accumulated quite a few losses, which the Swiss public will not be too happy with, and a change at the top was required. So what happens next: will the SNB relent and allow the peg to expire as the scramble for a (now much more diluted) CHF resumes ahead of the European D-Day in March, or will the peg be forced to be pushed even higher, at the expense of even greater balance sheet losses? Here is what SocGen thinks will be the next steps.
EUR/CHF: will the SNB have to make a move?
The EUR/CHF has been weakening steadily over the past month and is now back at the low end of the 1.2125-1.2475 range, which is within the level since mid-September and the last limit before the 1.2000 floor implemented by the SNB on 6 September.
Upside pressure on the CHF has underpinned the stressful climate in the eurozone, despite the control system set up by the SNB and reduced global risk aversion mainly attributable to better US figures. The markets are waiting for the implementation of the measures agreed on at the end of last year (Merkel-Sarkozy meeting today); the situation in Greece is still a big concern (EUR15bn reimbursement on 20 March and discussions under way with the Troika); the budget outlook remains fragile overall (impact expected from the potential recession); and sovereign spreads remain stretched (notably for Italy at 520bp).
The initial reaction following Hildebrand resignation today was almost limited above 1.2125 even if the global tone for the CHF remains solid. A drop through the 1.2125 zone would open the door to the 1.2000 level. This threat would then force the SNB to react via market intervention. The Central Bank said today it will defend the 1.20 level with “utmost determination”.
At the end of the day, the likelihood of raising this floor is expected to grow as deflationary pressure increasingly threatens the Swiss economy. Global CPI has reached -0.7% yoy and core CPI is collapsing towards a historical level of -1.1% yoy (whereas the situation is stabilising in the eurozone). At the same time, manufacturing production is down for the first time since June 2009 (-4.3% yoy). In the highly uncertain economic environment with specific deflationary risks for Switzerland, and given the current evolution of spot rates, authorities are very likely to have to contend with raising the floor to over 1.20 in the short term.
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In Belgium today, we had the caretaker government announce freezing of spending as they need austere measures to rein in their mess:
(courtesy Bloomberg)
Belgium freezes €1.3B of spending following EU warning: Bloomberg noted that Belgium froze €1.3B in spending after the EU warned that a weaker-than-expected economy would push the deficit above the new government's targets. However, Budget Minister Olivier Chastel told L’Echo newspaper that the freeze was just an administrative move to give it time to conduct the budget review. He also said that the government will get down the deficit down to 2.8% of GDP in 2012 as planned. The article pointed out that while EU Economic and Monetary Commissioner Olli Rehn said last week that immediate cuts of as much as €2B would be a "first-best solution", he also said that he would let Belgium buy some time with a spending freeze until a scheduled budget review in February. The EU gave Belgium until 9-Jun to respond to its recent warning, and will issue an opinion on 11-Jan.
(Belgium 10 yr bond yield)
Snapshot
| SUMMARY | ONE-YEAR CHART INTERACTIVE CHART | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Value | 4.57 | ||
| Change | (%) | ||
| Open | 4.64 | ||
| High | 4.66 | ||
| Low | 4.55 | ||
In Iran, they just found an American guilty of being a spy. The war drums continue to beat louder and louder:
Iran Sentences Alleged CIA Spy To Death
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/09/2012 10:26 -0500
* In his remarks to the Rotary Club of Atlanta, Lockhart(voting member in 2012) notes that "slow progress toward full employment justifies continuing consideration of whether more can and should be done. So for me as a policymaker, now is not a time to lock into a rigid position."
* As recently as 29-Nov, Lockhart was on record as supporting the current course of monetary policy.* * * * *
Just when we thought we may go through one full day without some escalation out of the greater Iran region, here comes the WSJ to inform us that Iran has decided to shove the MAD ball right back into America's court with news that Iran has sentenced alleged CIA spy, 28 year old Amir Hekmati, to death. "Amir Mirzaei Hekmati, born in Arizona to Iranian parents and raised in Michigan, was accused of Moharebe--or being the enemy of God-- the highest crime in Islamic law that carries the death penalty in countries where Sharia law is practiced. The prosecutor's indictment against Hekmati, read in court, said he was guilty of waging a war against God, spying on the Islamic Republic of Iran for the CIA and working for an enemy government, according to Iranian media reports." Needless to say, "the case, the first recent death penalty for an American in Iran, will likely increase tensions between the U.S. and Iran. The State Department has called for Iran to release Hekmati and give the Swiss embassy--the protectorate of U.S. interest in Iran--access to him." It appears Iran has decided not to proceed with those particular instructions.
More from the WSJ:
Fars News Agency, a semi-official service affiliated with the Revolutionary Guards Corps, quoted Hekmati in court as saying, "I was fooled by the CIA to come to Iran and infiltrate the intelligence agencies and become a source for the CIA. But I personally didn't intend to harm Iran, I love Iran and wanted to live here and not return to the U.S."
It is not clear if the quotes attributed to Hekmati are accurate or if he made the comments under duress in a forced confession. The court hearing was behind closed doors.
Hekmati is a former U.S. Marine who served from 2001-2005 and subsequently worked as a contract translator for the U.S. Army in Afghanistan. At the time of his visit to Iran in August, he was working for a contractor company in Qatar, according to statements by his family.
The CIA has not commented on his case but his family has said that his visit to Iran in August 2011 was for personal reasons and denied that he received training or worked for the CIA.
"Amir has never had any affiliation with the CIA, and these allegations are untrue," said the family in a statement in December after his initial court hearing.
Judging by Brent's response today, especially with some ratherdire predictions hitting the tape over the weekend, few believe this latest push will amount to much and is merely more posturing. Which it will be, until it isn't.
h/t London Dude Trader
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On this side of the pond at 12:50 Atlanta Fed President Lockhart reiterated his calls for more QEIII:
12:48 Atlanta Fed President Dennis Lockhart says Fed cannot rule out additional easing
* In his remarks to the Rotary Club of Atlanta, Lockhart(voting member in 2012) notes that "slow progress toward full employment justifies continuing consideration of whether more can and should be done. So for me as a policymaker, now is not a time to lock into a rigid position."
* As recently as 29-Nov, Lockhart was on record as supporting the current course of monetary policy.* * * * *
Then we received the following news where Bill Daley as Obama's chief of staff quit today. It looks like Obama is not going to a JPMorgan, or Goldman Sachs alumni for replacement. He is picking Jacob Lew of Citibank:
(zero hedge)
Bill Daley Barely Lasts One Year Under Obama - President To Discuss Live At 3 PM
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/09/2012 14:33 -0500
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It is my contention that they are already engaging in QEIII. The USA has tax revenues in the neighbourhood of 2.3 trillion dollars. It has expenditures of around 3.7 trillion. Thus a deficit of 1.4 trillion dollars on balance sheet. If you add off balance sheet stuff like the wars we have close to 1.5 trillion dollars of deficit.
Japan is in a mess to fund their natural disaster; Europe is in a mess (see above). There is nobody capable of buying the bonds. The USA hides the purchases through their swap arrangement whereby the dollars over in the Europe received through a swap buys the USA treasuries and thus hide QE. It now seems that they wish to "come out of closet" and buy openly the bonds and increase the balance sheet of the Fed.
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Greg Hunter talks about the phony jobs report released on Friday:
(courtesy Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com)
Last Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) said 200,000 new jobs were created which dropped the unemployment rate to 8.5%. Break out the party hats and champagne, we’ve finally hit bottom and are heading back up! That’s the way the mainstream media (MSM) reported it, and in a campaign year, President Obama took a victory lap. Reuter’s reported Obama said, "We’re making progress. We’re moving in the right direction. And one of the reasons for this is the tax cut for working Americans that we put in place last year. . . .When Congress returns they should extend the middle class tax cut for all of this year, to make sure we keep this recovery going." (Click here to read the completer Reuter’s story.)
Economist John Williams of Shadowstats.com says the government reported more than 40,000 jobs that didn’t exist. In his latest report, Williams said, "The reported seasonally-adjusted 200,000 jobs surge in December 2011 payrolls included a false, seasonally-adjusted gain of roughly 42,000 in the "Couriers and Messengers" category." Williams went on to report, "While today’s happy labor data likely will fuel financial-media and political talk of an improving economy, the underlying reality remains bleak, with data later this month and next generally tending to confirm the ongoing bottom-bouncing of the U.S. economy in a severe downturn." (Click here to go to the Shadowstats.com home page.) If unemployment was calculated the way BLS did it in 1994 and earlier, it would be 22.4% according to Williams.
By the way, the "tax cut" amounts to $20 a week on average, and it cuts cash to fund things like Social Security. Of course, nobody is talking about how Social Security went "cash negative" in 2010. The Washington Post reports, "Now, Social Security is sucking money out of the Treasury. This year, it will add a projected $46 billion to the nation’s budget problems, according to projections by system trustees. Replacing cash lost to a one-year payroll tax holiday will require an additional $105 billion. If the payroll tax break is expanded next year, as President Obama has proposed, Social Security will need an extra $267 billion to pay promised benefits." (Click here to read the complete Post story from Oct. 2011.)
Cutting Social Security sounds more like desperation to me and not a real recovery. Bill Gross who heads up PIMCO (an investment fund with more than $1 trillion under management) recently gave a dire 2012 investment outlook. He starts off by saying, "It’s as if the Earth now has two moons instead of one and both are growing in size like a cancerous tumor that may threaten the financial tides, oceans and economic life as we have known it for the past half century. Welcome to 2012." Gross thinks the world could experience big inflation or big deflation in 2012. I think bankers would rather live with inflation than take the losses deflation will deliver. So, I think inflation for 2012 is a lock, and that could turn into hyperinflation, but who knows about the timing of the latter. Gross closes his outlook by saying, "The New Normal is "Sub," "Ab," "Para" and then some. The financial markets and global economies are at great risk." (Click here to read the complete Bill Gross investment outlook from PIMCO.) Please keep in mind, this is not some nut job living in a cave in Afghanistan, but a highly respected investor and money manager.
I think the best and most succinct 2012 prediction comes from renowned investor Jim Rogers. He says,". . . they’re going to make us all feel better for a while" because politicians will push money printing during a big election year. Rogers thinks what’s been going on is a "charade" and come the fall–look out! "This is all going to end in a terrible disaster for all of us . . . by the fall of 2012 I’d be very worried." (Click here to see the complete interview of Rogers on the European edition of CNBC.)
The economy is clearly not headed for a real recovery, no matter how many positive reports are conjured up by the government. The government and the MSM can mask the decline, but they can’t stop it.
DJ US Consumer Credit Surges In November
Forbes' Francis Mckenna writes that the regulators are blocking the truth on the MFGlobal situation:
(courtesy Forbes/Francis McKenna)
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I am going to leave you tonight with this lengthy piece from Ben Davies of Hinde Capital.
It is self explanatory.
(courtesy, Ben Davies/Hinde Capital/GATA)
I will see you tomorrow night
Harvey
Remember when the hiring of former Wall Street insider and JP Morgan career man, Bill Daley, by the Obama administration as its latest Chief of Staff was big news last January? Well so much for that. The LA Times reports that the detente between Obama and Wall Street has reached new levels, with Daley's resignation expected to be announced at 3 pm by the president and is to be replaced by Citi's Jacob Lew, who in turn was the guy who oversaw the bank unit that "shorted the housing market." Well, at least Obama now knows to keep away from the JPM crew, whose Jamie Dimon is not all that happy with the president, if he wishes to avoid looking like not only the Wall Street's patsy, but also the guy who fails at sloppy seconds.
From the LA Times:
William Daley is stepping down as White House chief of staff and budget director Jack Lew is taking over the President Obama’s team as it heads into a tough election year, senior administration officials say.
Daley gave his letter of resignation to the president in a private meeting in the Oval Office last week, recounting the administration's successes of his one year on the job and saying it was time for him to return to his hometown of Chicago.
Obama plans to announce the change in leadership in a public event Monday afternoon. The official shift will take place at the end of the month, giving Lew time to complete the administration’s budget proposal while Daley leads the team through the crafting of the State of the Union address due in two weeks.
The choice of Lew puts a veteran staffer of the White House, Capitol Hill and State Department in a critical position at a difficult time for the president. Obama hopes he can work through tough budget and economic issues with Congress this year despite fierce opposition from Republicans in the GOP-led House. Having a strong team captain who can deal with lawmakers, staffers and business leaders is considered crucial to their strategy.
But aides say Obama had faith in Daley to lead that effort, and that he had not been discussing making any changes prior to last week. Daley’s letter took the president by surprise, said three officials familiar with the personnel discussions that followed. They requested anonymity to speak about the internal talks in advance of the public announcement.
The presidential address to explain how Daley has more pressing family obligations can be hear here live at 3pm, with the now customary 45 minute fashionably late delay.
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Lastly, the San Francisco Fed President, Williams also issued his plea for more QEIII.
This is nothing new, Williams is also nicknamed "Helicopter John Williams", as he has been pounding the table continually for more printing!!:
(courtesy zero hedge)
Fed may need to buy more bonds: Williams
Mon Jan 9, 2012 12:40am EST
(Reuters) - The Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco President John Williams expects that the central bank will need to buy more bonds if his forecast for subpar growth and low inflation comes to pass, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.
With import price pressures ebbing and wages still under pressure, Williams expects inflation to slow to 1.5 percent in 2012 and 2013 from nearly 4 percent earlier last year, he said in an interview with the newspaper.
He added that he expects subpar economic growth in 2012 at a 2.25 percent annual rate and 3 percent in 2013 and does not consider it enough to bring the unemployment rate much below 8 percent by the end of 2013.
"Unemployment is going to be sustained above a reasonable estimate of the natural rate of unemployment, which is closer to 6.5 percent than the 8.5 percent that we have now. That does make an argument that we should have more stimulus," he said.
St Louis Fed President James Bullard said on Saturday that recent data seems to suggest that the U.S. economic recovery is gaining strength, suggesting that the Fed may not need to buy bonds right now.
The diverse remarks show that the Fed is still divided over the need for more accommodation to ensure a soft recovery does not dissipate or wilt due to an outside shock such as an intensification of the European debt crisis.
Several Fed officials, including Boston Fed President Eric Rosengren, have urged another round of buying mortgage-backed securities to shore up the depressed housing market, . Williams, who is now a voting member of the Federal Open Market Committee which sets monetary policy, said he is not in favor of increasing interest rates "anytime soon."
It is my contention that they are already engaging in QEIII. The USA has tax revenues in the neighbourhood of 2.3 trillion dollars. It has expenditures of around 3.7 trillion. Thus a deficit of 1.4 trillion dollars on balance sheet. If you add off balance sheet stuff like the wars we have close to 1.5 trillion dollars of deficit.
Japan is in a mess to fund their natural disaster; Europe is in a mess (see above). There is nobody capable of buying the bonds. The USA hides the purchases through their swap arrangement whereby the dollars over in the Europe received through a swap buys the USA treasuries and thus hide QE. It now seems that they wish to "come out of closet" and buy openly the bonds and increase the balance sheet of the Fed.
end
Greg Hunter talks about the phony jobs report released on Friday:
(courtesy Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com)
Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com
Last Friday, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) said 200,000 new jobs were created which dropped the unemployment rate to 8.5%. Break out the party hats and champagne, we’ve finally hit bottom and are heading back up! That’s the way the mainstream media (MSM) reported it, and in a campaign year, President Obama took a victory lap. Reuter’s reported Obama said, "We’re making progress. We’re moving in the right direction. And one of the reasons for this is the tax cut for working Americans that we put in place last year. . . .When Congress returns they should extend the middle class tax cut for all of this year, to make sure we keep this recovery going." (Click here to read the completer Reuter’s story.)
Economist John Williams of Shadowstats.com says the government reported more than 40,000 jobs that didn’t exist. In his latest report, Williams said, "The reported seasonally-adjusted 200,000 jobs surge in December 2011 payrolls included a false, seasonally-adjusted gain of roughly 42,000 in the "Couriers and Messengers" category." Williams went on to report, "While today’s happy labor data likely will fuel financial-media and political talk of an improving economy, the underlying reality remains bleak, with data later this month and next generally tending to confirm the ongoing bottom-bouncing of the U.S. economy in a severe downturn." (Click here to go to the Shadowstats.com home page.) If unemployment was calculated the way BLS did it in 1994 and earlier, it would be 22.4% according to Williams.
By the way, the "tax cut" amounts to $20 a week on average, and it cuts cash to fund things like Social Security. Of course, nobody is talking about how Social Security went "cash negative" in 2010. The Washington Post reports, "Now, Social Security is sucking money out of the Treasury. This year, it will add a projected $46 billion to the nation’s budget problems, according to projections by system trustees. Replacing cash lost to a one-year payroll tax holiday will require an additional $105 billion. If the payroll tax break is expanded next year, as President Obama has proposed, Social Security will need an extra $267 billion to pay promised benefits." (Click here to read the complete Post story from Oct. 2011.)
Cutting Social Security sounds more like desperation to me and not a real recovery. Bill Gross who heads up PIMCO (an investment fund with more than $1 trillion under management) recently gave a dire 2012 investment outlook. He starts off by saying, "It’s as if the Earth now has two moons instead of one and both are growing in size like a cancerous tumor that may threaten the financial tides, oceans and economic life as we have known it for the past half century. Welcome to 2012." Gross thinks the world could experience big inflation or big deflation in 2012. I think bankers would rather live with inflation than take the losses deflation will deliver. So, I think inflation for 2012 is a lock, and that could turn into hyperinflation, but who knows about the timing of the latter. Gross closes his outlook by saying, "The New Normal is "Sub," "Ab," "Para" and then some. The financial markets and global economies are at great risk." (Click here to read the complete Bill Gross investment outlook from PIMCO.) Please keep in mind, this is not some nut job living in a cave in Afghanistan, but a highly respected investor and money manager.
I think the best and most succinct 2012 prediction comes from renowned investor Jim Rogers. He says,". . . they’re going to make us all feel better for a while" because politicians will push money printing during a big election year. Rogers thinks what’s been going on is a "charade" and come the fall–look out! "This is all going to end in a terrible disaster for all of us . . . by the fall of 2012 I’d be very worried." (Click here to see the complete interview of Rogers on the European edition of CNBC.)
The economy is clearly not headed for a real recovery, no matter how many positive reports are conjured up by the government. The government and the MSM can mask the decline, but they can’t stop it.
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Consumer credit skyrocketed in November as the holiday season began in earnest:
( courtesy Dow Jones newswires)
DJ US Consumer Credit Surges In November
Mon Jan 09 15:00:45 2012 EST
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--U.S. consumer borrowing rose by the most in a decade during November, surging 10% with Americans pulling out their credit cards as the holiday shopping season got rolling.
The level of consumer credit outstanding increased by $20.37 billion to $2.478 trillion, the Federal Reserve said Monday. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires had forecast an $8.0 billion increase.
In percentage terms, the increase was the biggest since October 2001 and a big driver of the gain was revolving credit, which includes credit-card debt. It increased by $5.60 billion to $798.27 billion.
Nonrevolving credit also surged, rising $14.78 billion to $1.679 trillion. The increase was fueled by federal government, a category that includes student loans and has been increasing a lot over the past year--a sign high joblessness in the U.S. has led many people to go back to school.
The consumer-credit report doesn't include numbers on home mortgages and other real-estate secured loans. But the Fed data are important for the clues to behavior by consumers, whose spending helps propel the economy.
The November jump in consumer credit followed a gain of $6.02 billion during October and was the 13th increase in 14 months.
Rising credit can be a sign people are more comfortable with the economy--or an indication they are forced to finance essential purchases, such as food and gasoline. The big gain in revolving credit during November suggests consumers used credit cards to buy gifts and other holiday purchases.
Consumer spending has been growing, but not very fast. While inflation isn't out of control, the lackluster economy that is restraining prices has also kept income gains small. Over the past year, the rate Americans save money has slid considerably, with the latest government figures showing it at 3.5% in November, compared to 5.1% in November 2010.
Unemployment in the U.S. remains high, housing prices keep falling, and the stock market has been volatile--leaving many consumers feeling vulnerable. An important read on how consumers felt during the thick of the holiday shopping season comes out Thursday, when the Commerce Department reports on December retail sales. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires are expecting another small gain of 0.2%.
Despite the headwinds, the economy continues to move forward. The Fed has forecast modest growth this year, ranging from 2.5% to 2.9%. According to the research firm Synovate, credit-card issuers sent 418 million solicitations to subprime borrowers in the first nine months of 2011, double the year-earlier volume of 207 million.
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The Neverending MF Global Story: Regulators Block The Truth
By Francis McKenna
January 9, 2012
Instead of looking out for MF Global investors – and customers who are still waiting for their money – it looks like regulators and the bankruptcy trustees are busy suppressing information. Instead of full transparency, regulators and the trustees are holding onto crucial details that might tell us all who was asleep at the wheel when the broker/dealer and futures commission merchant (FCM) headed over the cliff.
Bob English, an independent trader and contributing editor to the blog, Economic Policy Journal, published a post this morning that raises serious questions about the Securities and Exchange Commission’s program of regulation for broker/dealers and, in particular, the agency’s role in keeping the truth from the public about what went wrong at MF Global.
We’re also being kept from the truth about other broker/dealers who may be putting risky trades on their books or whose controls over segregation of customer assets may be weak or non-existent.
"It seems that sloppy scanning and filing standards combined with preferential treatment for certain large brokers has substantially reduced the value of this part of the SEC’s public filing system. Since this is often the sole repository for disclosures about private companies, including broker dealers that do not have public holding companies, investors are being deprived of timely and critical information.
Even for those broker dealers that do have public holding companies, such as MF Global Inc., the financial notes of the broker audits disclose different, and oftentimes, more substantial information. Since it is now apparent that Louis Freeh, the former FBI Director cum MF Global Holdings trustee, is running cover for MF’s largest creditors, not the least of which is JP Morgan Chase, it is all the more critical that the integrity of the SEC’s public filing system be scrutinized."
On November 4, 2011, days after the bankruptcy filing, I described in an American Banker column the information the regulators and investigators should be looking for:
"Since MF Global is a broker-dealer and a Futures Commission Merchant, PwC’s job went well beyond a standard audit. The auditor for a firm like this must annually review the procedures for safeguarding customer and firm assets in accordance with the Commodity Exchange Act. The annual audit must include a review of a firm’s practices and procedures for computing the amounts that, by law, have to be set aside in clients’ accounts each day. MF Global also had to send regulators an annual supplemental report from PwC. This report would describe any material inadequacies existing since the date of the previous audit and any corrective action taken or proposed.
I’m sure the CFTC wants to know if PwC ever documented any material inadequacies in MF Global’s controls over safeguarding customer assets. But wouldn’t they already know that? Regulators like the CME Group, the CFTC, the SEC, and FINRA received audited financial information annually, unaudited information semiannually and monthly reports that provided a capsule view of MF Global’s financial position. MF Global is required to perform calculations daily (by the CFTC) and weekly (by the SEC) to ensure that the proper amount of customer funds is set aside in the separate accounts.
PwC’s report to the SEC of internal control discrepancies for 2010, and there is one according to the filing index, is private. None of the auditor’s reports specific to the broker/dealer and FCM are available to the public on Edgar for 2011.
Is this just sloppy scanning? It’s no coincidence to me that auditor PricewaterhouseCoopers may also be playing a role in keeping uncomfortable or incriminating information from the public about its audit clients which include MF Global as well as Bank of America, JP Morgan, and Barclays.
I am going to leave you tonight with this lengthy piece from Ben Davies of Hinde Capital.
It is self explanatory.
(courtesy, Ben Davies/Hinde Capital/GATA)
Hinde Capital report on Europe: Should I stay or should I go?
Submitted by cpowell on Mon, 2012-01-09 19:02. Section: Daily Dispatches
2p ET Monday, January 9, 2012
Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:
A new study by Hinde Capital in London, whose CEO, Ben Davies, spoke at GATA's conference there in August, concludes that debt, austerity, sovereignty, and democracy pressures are likely to pull the euro zone apart. The Hinde report touches on central bank gold sales to deflect currency pressures and the possible mobilization of gold as formal backing for currency. The report is titled "Should I Stay or Should I Go?" and it's posted at the Hinde Internet site here:
CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
I will see you tomorrow night
Harvey
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Thanks Harvey
Damn, that premium on Sprott Silver is increasing fast.
"physical metal is starting to distance itself from paper.The bankers are loathe to attack the Sprott funds. They are still shorting Central fund of Canada. Eric is still on the prowl looking for his silver."
http://goldchat.blogspot.com/2012/01/gold-most-explored-mineral-commodity.html
any big investors who want physical silver at a premium MUCH less than 34%, contact the Perth Mint. Sprott/anyone can get their silver.
Bubba says thank you Harvey!
Bubba is happier than a pig in chit after reading a Harvey Organ blogpost!
Better get your phyzzz kiddies before the price differential seperates like a whip line at a roller rink ya hear!!!
Bubba out!
What do you think of the new bullion fund MNT.to? Hard to find much info on it.
Guys and Gals: I made a tiny error and it has now been corrected:
I confused Bill Daley with William Dudley of the NY Fed.
Daley quit and he is being replaced by Jacob Lew of Citibank.
Daley is a former JPMorgan commodity VP who left to become chief of staff for Obama, and he is well versed in the massive shorting of silver.
all the best
Harvey
I do not know the fund MNT.
I will only comment on the physical funds that I am 100% certain that it is real and in physical unencumbered form.
all the best.
Harvey
Harvey: "I will only comment on the physical funds that I am 100% certain that it is real and in physical unencumbered form."
... and GLD and SLV, too, at no extra charge.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/57301/brazil-to-limit-foreign-mining-investment-report
One of the best ways for China to get rid of dollars, buy mines! Brazil is trying to curb their interest see article
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gb_KhHIUGCSMMXapC_TIQmqhlNrQ?docId=CNG.e010b29f6bdc61d208d4362e61b737e2.4f1
Attempted Suicide by Polish Miltary Prosecuter answering questions about the 2010 air plane crash that killed the Polish President with family and Military Chiefs and yes, also the CENTRAL BANK GOVERNOR. What a way to change a country.
Harvey,
Seeing as you have Bart Chilton's ear, would you mind asking why, when it comes to regulating the markets, he is about as much use as eunuch at an orgy?
At least, by now, any free thinking human being can see Bart 'Take the nice wage and forever turn a blind eye' Chilton for what he is and where is loyalty lies.
Bix Wier is full of it. December demand for ""2012"" coins on PRE-ORDER does not consitute December demand. These are just resellers posting early for initial release of 2012 coins so they can sell at a higher than normal premium for a very short window of time. It happens every year.
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thanks harvey,it dont matter who obama puts in that position they wont last! the white house is the new hamburger hill!
I suggest you listen to the last brother john´s video, challenging B. Chilton...on Why the futures market has to be so big compared to the physical market and that he states that in other comodities the difference is that big... he looked at the oil market and it wasn´t... What do you think Harvey?..
Thanks for everthing!!
"I will only comment on the physical funds that I am 100% certain that it is real and in physical unencumbered form."
There is no disputing cef/pslv have allocated metal. Slv has all the allocated metal but the problem is allocated is only good if a) you hold enough shares (50K baskets) b) convert to allocated. Everyone else is really a wannabe allocated. In addition, even if you are allocated, does anyone want to be the next Jason Fane? In a bank/brokerage/systematic collapse, good luck getting your metal and who knows how long it will take. Btw, Fane isn't the interesting case - he'll probably get his metal since he asked for it prior to collapse. What's interesting is how the other allocated warrant holders will be treated - the trustee wants them to form part of the 'unsecured creditors' and thus receive cash.
MNT - the Royal Canadian Mint Exchange Traded Receipt. Pretty neat - great way for smaller investors to get in the game. Must own a min of 10,000 ETR's (so about $200k) to be able to get delivery of gold. Legal and beneficial ownership is in the name of the ETR holder although MNT operates under a book based system with CDS which is the nominal holder. You do not get to hold/obtain a physical ETR certificate.
The gold is held on an unallocated basis - but it's the Mint - the gold will be there.
So is MNT amazing? Here's the problem. MNT can terminate at the discretion of the mint if, in particular,: a) changes in legislation/regulations ie. Mint Act b) gov't privatizes the Mint c) market conditions no longer feasible to continue the program d) CDS says it's no longer the depository of the ETR certificates
So, here's the kicker: if you REDEEM anytime BEFORE TERMINATION, you have the option of course of physical gold (if you have min 10,000 ETR's) or cash (no min amount). The safety valve is you can sue both the Mint/CDN Gov't for either gold/cash if they don't deliver.
BUT if the program is TERMINATED, say for example the Gov't privatizes the RCM (a legitimate option in a freegold system), holders will receive cash. You can sue both the RCM/CDN Gov't, but you will only get cash.
So, SLV/PSLV/MNT are good imo if a) you hold enough 'shares' b) redeem for physical before a collapse.
But if you attempt to ride out the 'collapse' with those 'shares' hoping to keep the shares (presuming you switch them into your legal name), you better hope the trust/program doesn't terminate just prior/during/after the collapse.
With CEF, you cannot take delivery so you are hoping post collapse the fund still exists, keeps the metal, your shares are allocated to you. In other words, holding shares post collapse would be the same as holding shares today ie. taking advantage of price appreciation of gold/silver. The risk with CEF is NAV dwindles in a paper collapse and the fund is terminated and they sell the physical gold/silver to some lucky individuals at rock bottom prices.
So those that spend their $'s on CEF/SLV/PSLV/MNT may fall into two camps: a) traders who do not have the intention of redemption b) investors who believe the shares/units/ETR's as just as good as metal and will redeem if necessary. I suspect there's a heck of a lot in category B that are unaware of their full risk exposure.
So which side of the fence would you rather be on? Paper or taking physical possession today?
Harvey,
I'll admit that I have not spent much time tracking GLD and I have a question. I was wondering, have we experienced this long of a "no change" streak in GLD before? Is this far from normal behavior or has this happened in past months / years?
I'm wonder if a giant "puke" is on the horizon or if this has been the norm in the past.
Thanks
Hello,
Once again as everyday : why is premium on Sprott around 30%, while BullionVault and GoldMoney don't show these premiums at all?
As people seem to mix things, I remind that BV and GM are segregated, allocated, physical accounts, NOT ETFS!!, and that you can get delivery of your silver bars, as you own them, they are your property 100% (please read GoldMoney for example), unlike MF Global.
So they sell physical as well, just as Sprott.
Therefore I do not understand this story of premiums of about 30% about Sprott, and even less the fact that Harvey is using this argument to say that paper and physical prices are diverging.
ANON SAID:
Hello,
Once again as everyday : why is premium on Sprott around 30%, while BullionVault and GoldMoney don't show these premiums at all?
ANON,
IT IS A MATTER OF TRUST. PEOPLE BELIEVE SPROTTS BULLION CAN BE DELIVERED MORE THAN THEY TRUST
BULLION VAULT OR GOLDMONEY. OTHERWISE SOMEBODY WOULD ARBITRAGE BY SHORTING SPROTT AND GOING LONG BV AND GM. I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT TAKE THAT BET AND APPARENTLY NOBODY ELSE WILL EITHER.
"OTHERWISE SOMEBODY WOULD ARBITRAGE BY SHORTING SPROTT AND GOING LONG BV AND GM"
How could one possibly go short on a physical fund? You can only go long, owning the metal you buy, without leverage.
What are you talking about??
Personally, I trust the Silver Bullion Trust SBT.U , they have a NAV premium of under 9%. I bought it fairly recently with only a 3% premium. The bullion is in Canadian vaults overseen by the Canadian government and audited regularly. It's as safe as Sprott with a lot less premium. You can take delivery.
RE: Goldmoney & Bullion vault
From my understanding, both of these companies are "closed" systems.
By that I mean you have to prove your identity and get registered to get access to the system and only then you can buy metals. Unlike the ETFs (sprott included) where as long as your brokerage firm offers you access to these vehicles then you can buy, sell or short to your hearts content i.e. just like any security.
Even though you can, GM was not really designed to be a trading system for metals (moreso with BV) just a buy and hold storage facility. Huge amounts of cash move in and out of the PSLV and others, so I don't think that GM and BV could cope with those kind of spreads. They are basically for the little people - the big boys play with the ETFs.
Also, I believe GM generally get its metal purchases for customers from the miners directly with price of the LBMA, so its a question of at what price members are willing to sell to the company - whether a premium is demanded or not can be decided by them. I think Sprott, in contrast, get his metal on the open market. However I could be wrong about this.
Hope that helps.
If you want 100% sure your metal...backyard, underground.
Sorry for Sprott clients, etc...just papers and you'll realize that some day (goverment confiscation, war, rules changes, etc.).
Just my opinion..my mind...and my gut..
I hope to be wrong...
Harvey: Please comment on BullionVault if you are free to do so. Do you consider them safe.
Anonymous: Regarding BullionVault;
I believe the minimal withdrawal for silver is 1,000 oz. If you own less, like most of us, you can't withdraw real metal.
I still feel safe there but would like to have the option to withdraw if desired.
When I opened my account, it was my impression that we could withdraw whatever we wanted but I recently checked and saw the 1,000 oz minimum. Don't know if I missed it before or if the rule was changed.
Harvey, I posted today under my name (John Berg)at 5:37 AM. Please change my posting name to "Anonymous" since I feel it is an error to use my name and reveal that I have a BV account--might be asking for trouble. Thanks.
John,
As long as your metal is in someone else's hands, it is not safe, even if it's only 100 miles away; what happens if a collapse occurs, and you can't get gas to drive up there, or there are rebel "confiscation" roadblocks on the way, or your vehicle gets stolen the day before you decide to drive up there?
I'm not saying to not trust these people, but humans will find ways to frustrate you any way they can. Keep it close...
SE
Too late JOHN, I am playing with your metal while I am typing this.
Boy it's so shiny and cool.
The more one looks into it, especially in light of the MFG collapse/hyperinflation concerns/systematic/title/termination of trust/confiscation/ETF/fund/program issues,etc., one naturally is lead to the conclusion paper is paper and possession is possession. Save yourself the headache and take possession.
Pre-collapse, everything is fine and dandy if you hold shares/units and you do/don't take delivery.
If you do take delivery, here's the min amounts and approximate prices if you bought today (figures/#'s/facts might be off so check it yourself) and keeping in mind redemption will likely involve a mix of mostly physical and some cash:
a) slv - 50K shares X $29.30 = $1.465M. So $1.465M/$30 = about 48.8K oz's.
b) pslv - 10 good silver LGDB's is about 10K oz's.
i. nav = $11
ii. price of silver/oz = $30
iii. amount of physical represented by each unit = $11/$30 = about 33%
iv. so 10K/0.33 = 30.3K shares X $15 = $454K
c) mnt = 10K ETR's = 10,000 X $19 = $190,000. So $190K/$1650 = about 115 gold oz's.
d) phys – 1 LGDB – 400 oz’s
i. nav = $13.50
ii. price of gold/oz = $1650
iii. amount of physical represented by each unit = 13.50/1650 = 0.008
iv. So 400/.008 = 50K shares X $14.30 = $715K
e) gld – 100K shares X $159 = $15.9M. So $15.9M/$1650 = 9636 oz’s
f) silver bullion trust (sbt.u), gold bullion trust (gtu.u) and CEF – no delivery option
g) goldmoney –
i. silver: 30 bars = 30,000 oz’s X $30 = $900,000 - you cannot ‘reserve’ and register silver bars in advance (ie. Segregated)
ii. gold: 1 LGDB – so about 400 oz’s X $1650 = $660K you can register and reserve in advance (ie. Segregated)
h) bullionvault
i. must reserve/segregate bars
ii. Silver - 1 LGDB – 750-100oz’s so 1000oz’s X $30 = $30,000
iii. Gold -1 LGDB – 350-430oz’s so 400oz’s X $1650 = $660K
This of course ignores fees/expenses associated with taking delivery.
If one does not redeem pre-collapse, then post collapse you are hoping everything is business as usual ie. Essentially in the same position as today.
forgot to state what's implied:
if you don't hold the minimum amounts, you do not qualify for redemption. End of story.
WARNING:
Just one mor MFGLOBAL situation, just one (1, UNO, EINS,ONE,...), and you get a run for phyzz...and no one will get nothing...It is so clear and so close...
Again, I hope to be wrong
I am beginning to see the view of the "phyzz" crowd more and more....
For your info, I have a goldmoney account and I am very satisfied with them. However, there are unknown factors out there that even goldmoney cannot insulate you from (war, government confiscation, etc) so now does seems to be the right time to "hedge" my accounts with something truly "real".
I only have about 15% of my net wealth in real physical bars and coins and this nagging fear I have about the system imploding is increasing my urgency to go ALL IN into the physical. And this is from someone who ALREADY has some land in the countryside.
My plan is going to be to liquidate about 50% of my GM account and buy a mixture of physical metals and actual land (forestry). This will be my hedge.
Folks out there, don't wait to be holding some piece of paper like MFGlobal customers, do something right now to either get real physical metal or at least hedge your online accounts with other real assets(i.e. land). Time is surely running out.
WARNING II:
Besides a MFGLOBAL situation a war (for example: USA-IRAN-ISRAEL will implicate a lot of need of...SILVER...(the real, not the papers)
Could that be a very "patriotic" and legal reason for confiscate all the phyzz in vaults?
A
For those who dont know:
Silver is very used in all military machine...
Do you really own your land? Or do you merely hold paper?
The Land Patent is the only form of perfect title to land available in the United States. Wilcox v. Jackson, 38 PET (U.S.) 498; 10 L.Ed. 264
In America today people think they own their land, but unless they have the Land Patent on the land they do not own it. Most people today obtain "Real Estate" by contract and then on fulfillment of the contract they transfer control of land by "Warranty Deed".
The "Warranty Deed" is merely a "color of title". Color of Title means: "That which is a semblance or appearance of title, but not title in fact or in law." Howth v. Farrar, C.C.A. Tex.; 94 F.2d 654, 658; McCoy v. Lowrie, 42 Wash. 2d 24, Black's Law Sixth Ed.
"I only have about 15% of my net wealth in real physical bars and coins and this nagging fear I have about the system imploding is increasing my urgency to go ALL IN into the physical. And this is from someone who ALREADY has some land in the countryside."
fofoa's words ring true here: buy in the % amount you are comfortable with and based on your understanding. No point going 30-100% all in if you feel uncomfortable.
Hey Harvey, thanks for the information. However i would like to point out that in belgium we no longer have a caretaker government but a real government as of early december 2011. :-)
RE: "Do you really own your land? Or do you merely hold paper?"
Well, as the old saying goes 'possession is 9/10s of the law". I would be sweating if I lived in the US and had a 'claim' on land as well. Feel sorry for you US land owners. But since I don't live there (other side of the world), I guess that makes it alright then :)
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